Law

Howard School of Law Ranked Among Nation’s Best

The National Law Journal & Legal Times recently named the Howard University School of Law among the nation’s best at producing new attorneys at prominent law firms.

According to a release, the top 50 ‘go-to’ law schools were identified based upon the percentage of graduates employed as first-year associates at more than 250 firms in the NLJ database. HU officials call the accolade a sign of Howard’s brand power in the industrial marketplace.

“These rankings are a source of pride,” said Okianer Christian Dark, Interim Dean of the School of Law. “Students perform exceptionally well while at Howard Law School. Our students know they are highly sought after and that encourages them to excel even more.”

Howard is the only historically Black university ranked among the top 50.

  • Thoth

    Oh how I love the hypocrisy of Howard University. This same school that complained about getting kicked out of the top 100 schools in the nation due to the rankings being “unfair” and “not taking their legacy into account”, are now sticking out their chest about having a top 50 law school. I guess everything is okay now huh?

    • Ern Champ

      why are you so angry about it ? did you go to the fake HU? kidding but hey it’s good news after a year of bad news for the school!

      • Thoth

        Not mad, this just shows the hypocrisy of Black people as we only complain when we don’t benefit off of a system yet cheer that same system when we do benefit from it not noticing that the real issues are we’re not moving forward, just asking for different footing at the beginning of the race that we’re greatly behind.

        • samuraipolitics

          Are you an attorney? Go to law school? If so you know now to analogize and differentiate, right? Howard has railed against a ranking based solely on SURVEYS sent to the partners at prominent law firms, who, as you know, did not GO to an HBCU let alone Howard. This ranking is based upon the law schools that have the most first year associates starting at firms around the country. A QUANTIFIABLE and VERIFIABLE number…not a survey based on name recognition. You can see the difference, right?

          • Thoth

            Sure I see the difference. And I’m sure you can see the issue seeking approval from a “group” of people that are not you ranking you right? Even if it’s a measurable number, you’re still celebrating being judged by those that are not you instead of measuring yourself for yourself. Something better to brag about would be how many Black owned law firms has Howard law students started? How many Black law students Howard produced fight directly for their community that right now is greatly under attack? These would be better to cheer about then what other “groups” think about you. Keep in mind, THEY decide what a prominent law firm is. Maybe WE should decide how to measure our own success.

          • Jarrett Carter Sr.

            I see both sides of this discussion. On one hand, you applaud the HU School of Law for being recognized for the training and opportunities it provides its graduates; regardless of where they land jobs. On the other, there is something to be said about measuring where one of only a handful of HBCU law schools place attorneys where they are needed most; cities and areas where African-Americans and significantly and negatively impacted by the criminal justice system.

            Very interesting discussion.

          • Thoth

            We as Black people must stop waiting for value to be handed to us by others and instead value yourselves and what we hold important for evaluation. We should rank ourselves, judge ourselves and hold ourselves up instead of waiting for the pat on the head. We should brag about what we do for ourselves and not how we fit into their world. Plus notice, they said associates, not partners of these law firms. What defines a prominent law firm, and how many of the prominent law firms serve the Black community? I’m willing to bet few if any. We should be more impressed about what Howard and all HBCUs are doing for our community. There is no pride in being the best HBCU if all of the students leave and work in someone else’s america.

        • Albert I.T.

          hypocrisy of people*. There isn’t a thing distinctly “black” about flip-flopping, that’s just human nature. We like what benefits us, dislike what doesn’t benefit us, and sometimes we like and dislike the same entity depending on whether or not it benefits us at the moment. But that’s besides the point, because Howard isn’t flip-flopping. It’s not at all hypocritical to criticize one ranking system and applaud another.

          • Thoth

            No but it is hypocritical. Howard is still holding up in praise the judgement of another group of people on how they are viewed instead of putting forward what they and we should value. Instead of HBCUs priding themselves on their rankings based on what a group of people that don’t look like them or have even attended these institutions, they should focus on how these school develop Black-owned business, law firms, hospitals, etc…. We don’t even have a way to measure ourselves and instead wait to be given a bone from others.

            And since I want my people to improve and stop accepting pats on the head, yes, hypocrisy is the distinct term I will use for Black people until things change. Stop priding yourselves over getting a pat on the head and start priding yourselves on power, development and influence.

          • Albert I.T.

            I’m not entirely sure what your getting at when you talk about Howard being “hypocritical,” and I think it’s a bit skewed to suggest that HBCUs, or black people in general for that matter, pride themselves on outgroup approval in lieu of black achievement. Keep in mind that this particular ranking is concerned with the number of graduates being placed in the most prestigious law firms in the country, and Howard Law is proud of producing quality attorneys who find positions in these firms. Is that not in itself an appreciation of black achievement? Furthermore, isn’t it counterintuitive to advocate for ptide in power and influence, and at the same time criticize an acknowledgement of a ranking that is based for the most part on power and influence?

            There is a big difference between a pat on the head and a pat on the back, and Howard is getting a pat on the back for producing smart, hard-working attorneys who are sought after. That doesn’t mean Howard is bowing down to some outgroup power structure, or that Howard is basing its value on outgroup opinions. Howard is merely saying thanks for the recognition, that they’re proud of their program and the superb attorneys that program produces.

          • Thoth

            Howard is celebrating having their students go be “associates” at law firms that a group of people sitting in a room determine what is considered “the most prestigious”. How many of these law firms serve the community that Howard claims to serve? I’m willing to bet few if any.

            We should be care more about many of Howard’s law students are fighting for our communities that are greatly under attack and vastly under-represented with quality legal representation. The Mecca of Black education…that isn’t serving in the Black community in one area we desperately need these minds. Nothing to celebrate,

            And since I care about my people and I see my people care more about “others” approval more than our own, yes, I’m going to paint with a wide brush until I see our measurables come into play. Like I said, this is a pat on the head.

          • Albert I.T.

            I’d venture to say that most if not all of the firms in the NLJ 250 serve struggling communities well with pro bono legal services and fundraising for charitable causes, like feeding and clothing the homeless. Sure they make big bucks serving big clients, but they’re also real human beings with real human empathy. They’re not just about their money, despite what many people think. And caring isn’t exclusive, we can care about more than one thing at a time. Congrats to the Howard grads making their way in biglaw, and congrats to the many (MANY!) that serve their communities proudly.

            Where are you getting this idea that black folks are trying to get approval from some “other?” Because Howard is proud of sending its graduates to law firms that are mostly white? You make it seem as if Howard should be ashamed of these students for “selling out,” which is a bit radical and incredibly separatist. Why do you think that Howard doesn’t go above and beyond to serve the black community? There are students at Howard Law right now turning down job offers at firms and corporations to spend the summer in the PD’s office, or with the NAACP. One 3L student is starting a firm after graduation, with the specific intention of defending profiled black males back in his neighborhood. Our professors make sure to remind us of the importance of serving those in need. Selflessness is the lifeblood of Howard, and the university, by itself and through its graduates, works hard for those in need.